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		<title>Comment on Avett Brothers new video by jordanhalland</title>
		<link>http://payolacollective.com/2010/07/14/avett-brothers-new-video/#comment-256</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 16:26:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks!</p>
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		<title>Comment on Avett Brothers new video by linda</title>
		<link>http://payolacollective.com/2010/07/14/avett-brothers-new-video/#comment-255</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jul 2010 15:54:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[http://www.theavettbrothers.com/us/forums/spokane-tickets-sale]]></description>
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		<title>Comment on Luke Dowler, &#8220;Never Changes&#8221; by Latest logo work: Boarders for Christ &#171; the Payola Collective</title>
		<link>http://payolacollective.com/2010/03/17/luke-dowler-never-changes/#comment-247</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Latest logo work: Boarders for Christ &#171; the Payola Collective]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 17 Jun 2010 16:57:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] with the rest of the clothing line, posters or website. Joshua Montieth, who worked with me on the Luke Dowler video, is also producing a documentary on the tour that looks epic. Watch the teaser here: youtube. I [...]]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] with the rest of the clothing line, posters or website. Joshua Montieth, who worked with me on the Luke Dowler video, is also producing a documentary on the tour that looks epic. Watch the teaser here: youtube. I [...]</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Mark Mcmillan by jordanhalland</title>
		<link>http://payolacollective.com/2010/06/04/john-mark-mcmillan/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jordanhalland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 18:40:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[That&#039;s really interesting.  I wasn&#039;t aware of the difference.   Thanks for commenting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s really interesting.  I wasn&#8217;t aware of the difference.   Thanks for commenting!</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Mark Mcmillan by Lou Covey</title>
		<link>http://payolacollective.com/2010/06/04/john-mark-mcmillan/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Lou Covey]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 17:53:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I think the difference you are talking about is the difference between a hymn and a gospel song.  I learned that difference a long time ago and it stuck with me because it explained my difficulty with most gospel music.

Hymns are about who God is
Gospel is about what he did for us

That isn&#039;t a judgement on the value of either, but the latter is introspective and the former is perspective.  But most CCM music is introspective, as you point out, and is more &quot;me&quot; directed then God directed.

What McMillan puts into this song, however, is both aspects.  He talks about what god has done for us, but at the same time reveals the enormity of the act that demonstrates who God is.  We are all in a world of hurt right now but &quot;we don&#039;t have time to maintain these regrets when I think about....&quot;]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the difference you are talking about is the difference between a hymn and a gospel song.  I learned that difference a long time ago and it stuck with me because it explained my difficulty with most gospel music.</p>
<p>Hymns are about who God is<br />
Gospel is about what he did for us</p>
<p>That isn&#8217;t a judgement on the value of either, but the latter is introspective and the former is perspective.  But most CCM music is introspective, as you point out, and is more &#8220;me&#8221; directed then God directed.</p>
<p>What McMillan puts into this song, however, is both aspects.  He talks about what god has done for us, but at the same time reveals the enormity of the act that demonstrates who God is.  We are all in a world of hurt right now but &#8220;we don&#8217;t have time to maintain these regrets when I think about&#8230;.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Mark Mcmillan by jordanhalland</title>
		<link>http://payolacollective.com/2010/06/04/john-mark-mcmillan/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jordanhalland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 05:33:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[You are totally right about the U2 riff!  But because of his how the song spoke to me I can look past that.  I am a bundle of contradictions :)  I think you are right about the upcoming artists and it is exciting to see.  If anything maybe the 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s CCM scene created a generation of artists (like yourself) that are making less self-centered music .

As far as &quot;Open the eyes&quot; reference, I think you are right.  That is what happens when you just pick the first three songs you see.  
Thanks for commenting!]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are totally right about the U2 riff!  But because of his how the song spoke to me I can look past that.  I am a bundle of contradictions <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />   I think you are right about the upcoming artists and it is exciting to see.  If anything maybe the 80&#8242;s and 90&#8242;s CCM scene created a generation of artists (like yourself) that are making less self-centered music .</p>
<p>As far as &#8220;Open the eyes&#8221; reference, I think you are right.  That is what happens when you just pick the first three songs you see.<br />
Thanks for commenting!</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Mark Mcmillan by Zak</title>
		<link>http://payolacollective.com/2010/06/04/john-mark-mcmillan/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Zak]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jun 2010 03:37:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s funny to me that much of the energy of the soundtrack of that video (beginning @ 1:30) is a U2 riff. :-)

I agree that the 80&#039;s and 90&#039;s produced a lot of &quot;man-centered&quot; worship that I don&#039;t think is very helpful, but I think that the church has vacillated between being man-centered and God-centered throughout its history.  You are right though, our current church climate is self-centered enough without singing our own praises on Sunday.  We are starting to see a lot of new music, even some of the CCM stuff, that is re-aligning the view to Jesus instead of us.  CCM is still behind the curve artistically though, which I&#039;m sure is part of your frustration as an artist; it is mine.

I think you&#039;re wrong in placing &quot;Open the Eyes...&quot; in that list though.  While it may be old and tired, I think it is lyricaly humble and prayerful.  It speaks to our weakness and inability.  There are a good number of songs from that period that I think we be picked up as &quot;the classics&quot; one day...hopefully not &quot;Shout To The Lord&quot; though :-)

-zak]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s funny to me that much of the energy of the soundtrack of that video (beginning @ 1:30) is a U2 riff. <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I agree that the 80&#8242;s and 90&#8242;s produced a lot of &#8220;man-centered&#8221; worship that I don&#8217;t think is very helpful, but I think that the church has vacillated between being man-centered and God-centered throughout its history.  You are right though, our current church climate is self-centered enough without singing our own praises on Sunday.  We are starting to see a lot of new music, even some of the CCM stuff, that is re-aligning the view to Jesus instead of us.  CCM is still behind the curve artistically though, which I&#8217;m sure is part of your frustration as an artist; it is mine.</p>
<p>I think you&#8217;re wrong in placing &#8220;Open the Eyes&#8230;&#8221; in that list though.  While it may be old and tired, I think it is lyricaly humble and prayerful.  It speaks to our weakness and inability.  There are a good number of songs from that period that I think we be picked up as &#8220;the classics&#8221; one day&#8230;hopefully not &#8220;Shout To The Lord&#8221; though <img src='http://s0.wp.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>-zak</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Mark Mcmillan by jordanhalland</title>
		<link>http://payolacollective.com/2010/06/04/john-mark-mcmillan/#comment-225</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jordanhalland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 23:02:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I hear what you are saying, but, I disagree.  We all have styles and tastes that we lean towards.  I just have no taste for CCM.  I’m not criticizing their hearts, and if they are sincere and honest, more power to them.  But I can’t connect to a song that talks about something that isn’t true to my experience.  It goes back to something that I noticed a while ago in the songs we sing in church.  Most of the CCM worship songs written in the last 20 years are focused more on what we are doing rather than what God has done for us.  If you just search for the top worship songs of the last 20 years online you will see that many of them are about what we are doing to get close to God.  Titles like, “I’m coming back to the heart of worship,” or “Open the eyes of my heart,” or “Shout to the Lord” fill the Christian musical cannon.  Why I can’t connect with those songs is because they are focused on what we are doing to draw near to God instead of focusing on what Christ has already done.  Personally I don’t need, nor do I want to hear how much I’m worshiping.  I do need to be reminded of what Christ accomplished through the cross and in individuals lives.  That speaks to me more than any song about worshiping.   To me it’s the same thing as someone starting a band then all their songs are about them singing in a band.  Or starting a clothing company and all your shirts are about starting a clothing company.  There is nothing wrong with any of what I just said, but I can’t connect with music I find redundant and pedantic.  

It is solely my opinion and if you connect with contemporary Christian music and it draws you near to the Creator, crank it up!  It just doesn’t speak to me.  

If the music is honest, I love it.  That’s a loaded statement though and I probably should have defined what I meant by “honest.”  

Definition:  
If the music is honest to me and who I am then I give it value.  Thus, music that I love and makes the top of my head explode could be complete drivel to you.  It doesn’t make either experience right or wrong.  It’s just music and not an absolute. 

I love dialogue, Brother Vince.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I hear what you are saying, but, I disagree.  We all have styles and tastes that we lean towards.  I just have no taste for CCM.  I’m not criticizing their hearts, and if they are sincere and honest, more power to them.  But I can’t connect to a song that talks about something that isn’t true to my experience.  It goes back to something that I noticed a while ago in the songs we sing in church.  Most of the CCM worship songs written in the last 20 years are focused more on what we are doing rather than what God has done for us.  If you just search for the top worship songs of the last 20 years online you will see that many of them are about what we are doing to get close to God.  Titles like, “I’m coming back to the heart of worship,” or “Open the eyes of my heart,” or “Shout to the Lord” fill the Christian musical cannon.  Why I can’t connect with those songs is because they are focused on what we are doing to draw near to God instead of focusing on what Christ has already done.  Personally I don’t need, nor do I want to hear how much I’m worshiping.  I do need to be reminded of what Christ accomplished through the cross and in individuals lives.  That speaks to me more than any song about worshiping.   To me it’s the same thing as someone starting a band then all their songs are about them singing in a band.  Or starting a clothing company and all your shirts are about starting a clothing company.  There is nothing wrong with any of what I just said, but I can’t connect with music I find redundant and pedantic.  </p>
<p>It is solely my opinion and if you connect with contemporary Christian music and it draws you near to the Creator, crank it up!  It just doesn’t speak to me.  </p>
<p>If the music is honest, I love it.  That’s a loaded statement though and I probably should have defined what I meant by “honest.”  </p>
<p>Definition:<br />
If the music is honest to me and who I am then I give it value.  Thus, music that I love and makes the top of my head explode could be complete drivel to you.  It doesn’t make either experience right or wrong.  It’s just music and not an absolute. </p>
<p>I love dialogue, Brother Vince.</p>
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		<title>Comment on John Mark Mcmillan by Vince</title>
		<link>http://payolacollective.com/2010/06/04/john-mark-mcmillan/#comment-224</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Vince]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jun 2010 21:48:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Your opinion is valid, brother...but on the other side of that, you can&#039;t necessarily group every form that isn&#039;t your style of worship music done by these music makers/singers/artists as not finding their own point of reference when it comes to their time with God at whatever altar/platform they are vocalizing harmonies from.

Each man and woman that is earnestly rejoicing in God&#039;s presence no matter what their style of worship and song is, no matter what they are or aren&#039;t wearing, no matter if they have stage lights or not; has a valid song to sing unto the Lord because hopefully their point is to be heard by only God. Those are the emotions we cannot see or judge by their flavor, culture or style. For the record...I love pogo-stick worshipping unto the Lord when it&#039;s in unison and the power is flowing like a loud tornado. However...I also find times when a single voice plucking a guitar and crying out with a non-tuned voice is also just as powerful and moving. For me and my heart, it&#039;s all about the presence and not the style even though I lean towards certain one.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your opinion is valid, brother&#8230;but on the other side of that, you can&#8217;t necessarily group every form that isn&#8217;t your style of worship music done by these music makers/singers/artists as not finding their own point of reference when it comes to their time with God at whatever altar/platform they are vocalizing harmonies from.</p>
<p>Each man and woman that is earnestly rejoicing in God&#8217;s presence no matter what their style of worship and song is, no matter what they are or aren&#8217;t wearing, no matter if they have stage lights or not; has a valid song to sing unto the Lord because hopefully their point is to be heard by only God. Those are the emotions we cannot see or judge by their flavor, culture or style. For the record&#8230;I love pogo-stick worshipping unto the Lord when it&#8217;s in unison and the power is flowing like a loud tornado. However&#8230;I also find times when a single voice plucking a guitar and crying out with a non-tuned voice is also just as powerful and moving. For me and my heart, it&#8217;s all about the presence and not the style even though I lean towards certain one.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Arcade Fire Interview on NPR by jordanhalland</title>
		<link>http://payolacollective.com/2010/05/27/arcade-fire-interview-on-npr/#comment-222</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[jordanhalland]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 May 2010 17:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Wolf Parade opened for Arcade Fire at that show we saw!  They were amazing too.  We need to talk music more often!  I miss our banter.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wolf Parade opened for Arcade Fire at that show we saw!  They were amazing too.  We need to talk music more often!  I miss our banter.</p>
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